The Welsh according to the Financial Times are stone age. It's hard to disagree until you realise the paper isn't referring to the Assembly or local government or the state of our national media. Instead it's a response to the latest scientific offering regarding British DNA, albeit research that's a step-up from the Dafydd Iwan is descended from an old Welsh King of England hooey currently entertaining the public on S4C.
Meanwhile according to the Guardian the Oxford University study reveals that "30% of white British DNA has German Ancestry" (No it doesn't, it merely shows that in the dim and distant past many present day Germans and Britons shared common ancestors.) The Daily Mail says something similar about the French while the BBC gleefully trumpets the fact that the "Celts are not a unique genetic group."
Let's take a layman's look at the sample that allowed the researchers to conclude that the UK's population could be divided into 17 distinct groups, while recognizing that genetic variety in Western Europe is both very homogeneous and very recent. Here's a large scale map.
It looks to me that some of the sampling was designed to prove a point. The large number of samples in Devon and Cornwall, in Pembrokeshire and in North East Scotland (Picts) for example. At the same time other interesting possibilities are ignored. Mid Wales, Carmarthenshire and the South are hardly covered at all, a large area north of London - which stood out in Victorian examinations of negrescence - is empty of samples, as are large areas of Scotland and significant areas of the Welsh border (West Herefordshire and all of Shropshire).
What does the map say about Wales? Well the North Wales grouping is certainly distinct but how far south does it spread? This might have told us something about the extent of the Ordovici lands and there are also no samples from Lleyn (possible Gangani). Blood groups long ago told us something about the differences within Pembrokeshire and no doubt the current study will revive the Little England meme, but is it true? In reality the S Pembrokeshire cluster doesn't appear to coincide with S Pembrokeshire at all, it spreads north and west. There is no obvious link with Devon or Flanders, the usual suspects in the populating of the area and I wouldn't be surprised if the two groupings ie North and South Pembrokeshire both predate the Roman never mind the Norman invasion. If a wider sample had been taken in North Ceredigion, Carmarthen, Glamorgan and Gwent we might have a better understanding of the actual demographic history.
The Welsh border grouping seems heavily weighted to the Forest of Dean while excluding sampling in West Herefordshire and Shropshire. It's a puzzle why the southern (Dobunni?) area should then reappear in Cheshire. Again Wales has been somewhat short-changed by limited sampling in a survey which has been described as perhaps the richest genetic survey of any country to date.
I'm surprised that anyone is surprised that there is no single Celtic grouping. The Anglo-Saxon invasion lasted no more than a few decades yet it has left a distinct 10-40% trace - according to the survey - amongst the central and southern English. The period from the re-populating of Britain following the Ice Age to the Belgae arriving just ahead of the Romans was around 9000 years, for sure there would have been many other population movements during this timespan and subsequently various groupings waiting to be discovered - a single "Celtic" grouping would be highly unlikely.
A large part of the sampling was carried out in Continental Europe, see map, but again there seem to be some omissions. Why nothing from Friesland, after all Frisian is the language most closely related to English? Why no testing in southern Ireland, population movements are not all one way, see the Deisi. There was also limited testing from much of Denmark. Still the absence of what the survey calls FRA17 from all three Welsh groupings, and only the Welsh groupings, does indeed seem significant and nails the South Pembrokeshire is Little England meme - the absence of FRA17 and GER3 suggesting that all three observed Welsh groupings were amongst the earliest inhabitants of post-Ice Age Britain.
As far as Wales and the Welsh are concerned there is still much to learn about historical demographic events and this large survey is far from being the last word.
Let's take a layman's look at the sample that allowed the researchers to conclude that the UK's population could be divided into 17 distinct groups, while recognizing that genetic variety in Western Europe is both very homogeneous and very recent. Here's a large scale map.
It looks to me that some of the sampling was designed to prove a point. The large number of samples in Devon and Cornwall, in Pembrokeshire and in North East Scotland (Picts) for example. At the same time other interesting possibilities are ignored. Mid Wales, Carmarthenshire and the South are hardly covered at all, a large area north of London - which stood out in Victorian examinations of negrescence - is empty of samples, as are large areas of Scotland and significant areas of the Welsh border (West Herefordshire and all of Shropshire).
What does the map say about Wales? Well the North Wales grouping is certainly distinct but how far south does it spread? This might have told us something about the extent of the Ordovici lands and there are also no samples from Lleyn (possible Gangani). Blood groups long ago told us something about the differences within Pembrokeshire and no doubt the current study will revive the Little England meme, but is it true? In reality the S Pembrokeshire cluster doesn't appear to coincide with S Pembrokeshire at all, it spreads north and west. There is no obvious link with Devon or Flanders, the usual suspects in the populating of the area and I wouldn't be surprised if the two groupings ie North and South Pembrokeshire both predate the Roman never mind the Norman invasion. If a wider sample had been taken in North Ceredigion, Carmarthen, Glamorgan and Gwent we might have a better understanding of the actual demographic history.
The Welsh border grouping seems heavily weighted to the Forest of Dean while excluding sampling in West Herefordshire and Shropshire. It's a puzzle why the southern (Dobunni?) area should then reappear in Cheshire. Again Wales has been somewhat short-changed by limited sampling in a survey which has been described as perhaps the richest genetic survey of any country to date.
I'm surprised that anyone is surprised that there is no single Celtic grouping. The Anglo-Saxon invasion lasted no more than a few decades yet it has left a distinct 10-40% trace - according to the survey - amongst the central and southern English. The period from the re-populating of Britain following the Ice Age to the Belgae arriving just ahead of the Romans was around 9000 years, for sure there would have been many other population movements during this timespan and subsequently various groupings waiting to be discovered - a single "Celtic" grouping would be highly unlikely.
A large part of the sampling was carried out in Continental Europe, see map, but again there seem to be some omissions. Why nothing from Friesland, after all Frisian is the language most closely related to English? Why no testing in southern Ireland, population movements are not all one way, see the Deisi. There was also limited testing from much of Denmark. Still the absence of what the survey calls FRA17 from all three Welsh groupings, and only the Welsh groupings, does indeed seem significant and nails the South Pembrokeshire is Little England meme - the absence of FRA17 and GER3 suggesting that all three observed Welsh groupings were amongst the earliest inhabitants of post-Ice Age Britain.
As far as Wales and the Welsh are concerned there is still much to learn about historical demographic events and this large survey is far from being the last word.